January 29, 2007

Homosexuality: A Personal Reflection

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When the Ted Haggard controversy hit the blogosphere, some people asked me why I hadn't posted on the topic. From my previous posts on homosexuality, it was clear I had thought about the topic and had some opinions (see those posts in three parts: 1, 2 and 3). Besides the fact that Haggard, his family and his church had been through enough public scrutiny, I had other reasons for holding back. When I read Brian McLaren's posts on homosexuality over at Christianity Today's "Out Of Ur" blog, I had a similar sense that I was not prepared to weigh in.

However, having begun to write my next book, I have spent some time working on a chapter on sexuality. As you might expect, given the topic and the culture we live in, the issue of homosexuality and the churches response to it jumped to the forefront. The book, intentionally drawing from my own spiritual journey, confronted me with a very difficult challenge: What should I share on such a controversial and sensitive topic?

Here's the thing. During high school, I became aware that my sexual orientation was not the same as the other guys I knew. Where they would joke about being disgusted by the very idea of each other naked, I didn't share that response (though I would pretend I did). When they would get distracted by the maturing figures of our female classmates, I would be drawn to the athlete forms of the guys. Before long I was confronted with the reality that I was different. While I had never acted on it, by my orientation, I realized, "I'm gay".

That terrifying revelation came crashing down on me like the weight of the world. Here I was, a scrawny teenage boy who hated sports and loved poetry, part of a traditional Evangelical church in a rural community filled with farmers, hunters and hockey players. Needless to say, at the best of times, this is not an easy thing to come to terms with, let alone in such circumstances. It has been a tough journey since that day (one which you can read in more detail about when the book comes out), but as you can see, this by no means theoretical or abstractional.

As most of you know, I am happily married to a beautiful Aussie girl. So, was it a passing phase, common to adolescent sexual development? No. Did God heal me, freeing me forever of the homosexual attractions? No. The fact is that my sexual orientation, while obviously having a healthy attraction for women, is still also drawn to the same sex. It is a daily reality that I live and wrestle with.

Beyond the struggle with the attraction, I also wrestle with the theological realities of this issue. Don't get me wrong, it is not that I am questioning the theology for personal reasons- I am very much in love with my wife, have a healthy sex life and have no desire to embrace a different sexuality. Rather, it is not an uncommon occurrence in Christian history that our moral and theological confidence is more a reflection of cultural prejudices than Biblical exegesis (i.e. slavery, women in ministry, etc.).

While he took a great deal of heat on the issue, I can understand and appreciate Brian McLaren's hesitancy to make sweeping, public statements on homosexuality. His pastoral sensitivity, combined with his uncertainty on traditional interpretations of Scripture, cause him to pause in make a stand on the issue (this is my take on his position, so don't quote me on this). In many ways, though I understand some of what the critics say, I appreciate McLaren's stance.

Unfortunately, I do not have that freedom. To maintain an open mind and heart on the issue of homosexuality had (and has) deep rooted implications for me. In order to move forward with my life, I had to decide which course to take and, for me, that meant deciding what I believe about the issue. Does this mean I have no uncertainty or confusion about it? Of course not. I am not sure I will ever truly be sure this side of heaven. However, I believe that practicing homosexuality is inconsistent with Christianity.

Please understand that it pains me deeply to make such a bold, sweeping statement. After all, wouldn't be easier and smarter of me to simply say that "for me its wrong"? Isn't enough to say that while I believe it is a choice I cannot make, I will not state it as a universal? Sure, it is only my conviction of what is true, and yes, I can be, have been and will be wrong in many aspects of life and faith. Yet, by stating it in such relative terms, while attempting to reflect a chastened certainty, I leave myself and others in a torturous position. Besides, if I say it is only true for myself, am I not suggesting that it is a matter of personal choice, one I could have made as equally in the other direction?

Let me be clear here: I did not marry my wife because I had to come to terms with my beliefs about homosexuality. I married her because I love her, I am attracted to her and, should I decide today that I was wrong about this issue, it would not change for a minute my confidence that I am forever with the person I love more than anyone in the world.

That being said, I also believe,and with far more conviction, that the church has failed miserably in our treatment of this issue and more specifically (and tragically) our treatment of the people who are homosexual, by orientation and/or by practice. Not everyone knows this about me, but not because I am ashamed or afraid to tell people. Rather, it is far easier than dealing with the awkwardness, ignorance and judgment that is far too common when people learn about it. To even writing this is a major step out in vulnerability.

My hope in writing this is that in some small way, by sharing my story, Christians will begin to engage this issue with a sensitivity that this is a real issue that effects real people very personally. This is true for those who very publicly attack homosexuality as wrong, but lose sight of the fragile and precious people for whom this is a daily reality. It is equally true for those who seek to be cautious about making moralizing judgments or absolute statements, but can add terrible uncertainty for those who are desperate to understand what to believe and what to do.

The fact is that this is anything but an easy blog post to write. I can think of dozens of reasons not to post it, both because of the personal risk of being so vulnerable and for the potential hurt I could cause others by the stance I take. I decided to post it, in the end, because this is not an issue that will ever be engaged painlessly or comfortably, regardless of the belief(s) you embrace about it. That being said, as I post about last week, it is as much about how you believe than what you believe.

As always, I am not shy about questions, nor will you (likely) hurt my feelings, so weigh in and let me know what you think. Where do we go from here? What must the church do to begin to repair the damage we have done in the name of Christ while not compromising our convictions and beliefs? Have at it!


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1 - Jamie,

I greatly admire your courage and transparency in sharing this in such a public manner. I can't imagine how difficult it would have been to let others know about this, or to live with this struggle for years.

As Christians we definitely have done a terrible job dealing with this. I trust that your openness will be of great help to those men and women who love Jesus, and also struggle with same-sex attraction, but have been silent on this out of fear of how fellow believers might react.

You have my love and support, and even more of my respect. (Comment this)

Written by: John Smulo at 2007/01/29 - 01:10:22
2 - Jamie.

It takes guts to write what you did. My wife and I have had conversations about this topic - mainly because we both had people who were gay (roommates) who spoke into our lives to the point that God used their words to make us cleave to Him more closely. This was prior to our meeting. It would be safe, I think, to say that we would not have met without these two individuals.

As to the way the church treats/ deals with/ copes (There are no words to adequately describe this) with people who deal with this issue - I have no answers. I know that the past is littered with more pain and hurt than healing.

It's one example of a greater issue - one that affects more than one type of person. We tend to exclude people more easily than include them. It's easier to push people away.

I often wonder what a church would look like if it had a bit of each denomination and theological thought inside it. Possibly this is the way we are meant to be, but our pride and fear get in the way.

I think I just made a huge leap there.... need to think some more about that. (Comment this)

Written by: Chris Budlong at 2007/01/29 - 01:30:54
3 - thanks for the post, Jamie - appreciate the vulnerability and honesty and respect. i agree with your conclusions and stand with you. And despite what i have heard the critics say, my observation is that your [our] belief is the most commonly held view on this issue in the emerging church. (Comment this)

Written by: andrew jones at 2007/01/29 - 01:36:36
4 - John,

I am grateful that I have had people in my life who have spared me much of the pain I might have experienced- what many have and do suffer daily. I am glad to count you another friend in this regard. Thanks bro!

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 02:29:22
5 - Chris,

Sadly, I think you are right about exclusion. What makes it even worse is that those who most need our embrace are the very ones we too often choose to target. Homosexuality is an easy issue for Christians to attack because it is one that most Christian have little to nothing immediately at stake. It allows them to take a black and white stand on an issue that provides (what they see as) a contrasting opportunity for their own "purity" or "holiness".

Glad my post could help you process some new ideas.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 02:33:07
6 - Andrew,

Thanks for the affirmation and support. It means a great deal to me. This was a terrifying post to put up, so your quick reply to it is comforting and encouraging. Thank you.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 02:34:22
7 - Jamie,

I too appreciate your openess and vunerability. Your honesty is refreshing. Thanks for both letting us into your life in a personal way as well as sharing your thoughts on what you think about the issue itself. I look forward to reading your book. (Comment this)

Written by: JR Woodward at 2007/01/29 - 06:13:57
8 - Thank you for sharing. In Malaysia, we are tempted to deal with the subject matter of "Homosexuality" in impersonal and often insensitive ways. This particular post helps me to see a more personal reflection and thus affirm a appropriate pastoral response.

Take care.
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Written by: Sivin at 2007/01/29 - 06:30:21
9 - Great post, Jamie. Perhaps you're a model for us in how you handle this issue. People can handle strongly held beliefs, but I think they can tell if we care about them or not. For too long I'm not sure if we've cared for those who experience same-sex attraction.

I appreciate your courage and I'm glad for your voice on such an important issue. (Comment this)

Written by: Darryl at 2007/01/29 - 09:36:25
10 - Jamie,
I don't have anything to add to what has already been said, but just wanted to thank you for sharing this too. You likely speak for many and, as always, I appreciate your honesty, humility, and courage. You have a knack for saying things that need said in ways they need to be said. Peace and blessings, my friend.
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Written by: dan h. at 2007/01/29 - 09:39:29
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11 - JR,

I am glad it could be an encouragement to you. Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 09:53:11
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12 - Sivin,

It is good to hear that the post could challenge you in that area, as that was my heart in writing it in the first place. I don't want anyone to feel judged, but rather to open peoples eyes to how easy it is to forget the people for the issue.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 09:54:22
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13 - Darryl,

Thanks. The idea of being model in this issue is a scary one for me. I have, in the past, found myself the target from both sides of the issue. It is so polarized and destructive, though, that I felt I had to try. We'll see where it goes.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 09:55:55
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14 - Dan H.,

I rewrote this post several times, fighting the tension between being too strong in my emphasis on right belief and being too vague in an attempt to be pastoral and emphasize believing in the right way.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 09:57:42
15 - Jamie,

Thanks for your courage and your convictions about homosexuality - both the need to treat folks who struggle with this with grace and that it seems pretty clear that Scripture interdicts this behavior. I came to similar conclusions some time ago when I spent some time studying the Scriptures and the science of the topic. I'm deeply concerned that some in the ec are throwing baby out with bathwater in this issue in a spiritually dangerous way. Thanks again.

blessings, (Comment this)

Written by: stephen shields at 2007/01/29 - 10:24:13
16 - All I can say Jamie, is bless you for your honesty and your courage for sharing this. Much to think on... (Comment this)

Written by: Matt Wiebe at 2007/01/29 - 10:25:00
17 - Jamie - this changes my opinion about and respect for you not one bit. I'm saddened, though, that you've had to have a struggle that is painful and difficult. As Philip Yancy put it (I'm paraphrasing), I know no more difficult road for a man of integrity to walk.

It would do well for the rest of us, I think, to remember that our own struggles (while they may not be as sensationalized as this issue currently is by the modern church) are just as serious. We are perhaps in a less enviable position for the simple fact that ours are not struggles that get talked about. Pride, greed, and selfishness are accepted and even celebrated by many Christians. What are in our closets? And would we be as forthright as Jamie in airing them out? (Comment this)

Written by: Grey Owl at 2007/01/29 - 10:31:20
18 - Terrifying I imagine. I appreciate and honor your bravery though. I'm sure it will act as encouragement for many. It'll probably piss a few off too, but oh well. Such is the result of standing on such ground. I'll also say that I believe your conclusion is correct. Surely the treatment of individuals who are dealing with this has been unfortunate to say the least. Of course Love is our goal, what we should allow God to live through us to everyone - and Love doesn't mean to turn Truth upside down because of what may feel like "compassion." Anyway, Grace and Peace to you Jamie. (Comment this)

Written by: + Alan at 2007/01/29 - 10:46:09
19 - I have been reading your blog for a while now, Jamie, and I don't think I have ever commented. Just wanted to tell you now, that I really appreciate your thoughtfulness, vulnerability and honesty in this post and in former ones. Thank you! (Comment this)

Written by: Simon at 2007/01/29 - 10:57:23
20 - Jamie

Please allow me to add to my care and support the choir; thanks for your courage and your convictions, it was a bold step and I pray the Holy Spirit uses it to bring loving discussion to the topic.

Peace and grace

Kyle J. Mason


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Written by: Kyle J. Mason at 2007/01/29 - 10:59:45
21 - Jamie,
Thanks for offering the witness of transparency here.

I was just talking last night with good friends who are having their baby dedicated at our church next week, and her brother (who is gay) will be there with his partner. They are experiencing some amount of anxiety over their coming, and I was struck by this. What a contrast between our churches (who we exclude) and the reputation of Jesus (who he embraced)!

Thanks again. (Comment this)

Written by: Erika Haub at 2007/01/29 - 11:07:53
22 - Jamie,
Thanks for offering the witness of transparency here.

I was just talking last night with good friends who are having their baby dedicated at our church next week, and her brother (who is gay) will be there with his partner. They are experiencing some amount of anxiety over their coming, and I was struck by this. What a contrast between our churches (who we exclude) and the reputation of Jesus (who he embraced)!

Thanks again. (Comment this)

Written by: Erika Haub at 2007/01/29 - 11:10:55
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23 - Stephen,

Thanks for the encouraging words. As you can imagine, this is an issue that has been in the forefront of my heart and mind for many years. While I have greater understanding and clarity, it is still a struggle to understand. I appreciate your insight into the sensitivity needed.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:18:08
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24 - Matt,

Thanks. Feel free to weigh in more as you ponder.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:19:08
25 - Jamie,
Thanks for writing this. Your honesty and transparency are a model for all of us. (Comment this)

Written by: Bill Kinnon at 2007/01/29 - 11:20:14
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26 - Grey Owl,

Thanks for the support. Indeed, we all have closets in which we hide. Sadly, we have made some deadly to come out of.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:21:21
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27 - Alan,

Well said. So far, I have not had a negative reply. Thanks for adding your wisdom.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:22:51
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28 - Simon,

Thanks and welcome to the comment section. I hope you'll weigh in more often.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:24:28
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29 - Hey Kyle,

Thanks for the prayer and support, bro. Drop me a line when you are in town.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:25:31
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30 - Erika,

Isn't it sad that the community of faith should inspire such fear and alienation. We desperately need to change this. To me, it is crucial enough of an issue to be willing to face the inevitable conflict that will arise. Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:27:28
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31 - Bill,

Thanks so much. So far, so good.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 11:28:57
32 - Jamie,

Vulnerability with this post could almost be an understatement. I commend your willingness to share such difficult things with us all. It has only been in the last year that I have really been willing to open myself up as a person that really wants to understand the homosexual community. Admittedly, I was a hard line critic of such a life. All the while using the Bible as my hammer. God has helped me in this greatly. I have a practicing homosexual woman that comes to my church and I want her to know she is as welcomed as anyone else and she won't be "judged" by us because of the way she chooses to live. I don't think she needs to be told she's wrong, I think she needs to be understood and encouraged in finding God's love for her.

Thanks for this great post! (Comment this)

Written by: Shannon at 2007/01/29 - 11:30:17
33 - jamie,

i just read this post in a coffee shop in the small town i live in. i wanted to stand up and applaud you but people would have thrown me out. this is my first visit to your site. and even though i don't know you, i wish this could have been a conversation over coffee or tea, most importantly, face to face. but i applaud your desire to be authentic and to honestly share your story in the hopes of helping the continuing dialogue, while bringing a personal perspective.

after reading through the entire series of posts, i find myself asking the same question alex did in his final letter. how does Christ respond to this issue? which holds all the implications of how i will respond to this issue in general and in personal ways. i'm still seeking to discover this and i was hoping you might share some insight in regards to how Christ would have us respond.

once again, thank you for your authenticity. it inspires me to live the same way:)

brad (Comment this)

Written by: brad grinnen at 2007/01/29 - 11:49:41
34 - Jamie,

I can't image the struggle you went through in first considering the issue, then writing (and rewriting I bet) the post, and finally the fear and trepidation just before you hit the publish button. I’m truly humbled by your willingness to share and open yourself up in such a transparent way. Know that I stand with you bro.

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Written by: Rick Meigs at 2007/01/29 - 11:54:31
35 - Jamie
Bless you for wanting to deal with issues that are difficult. Bless you for wanting the community of believers to grow in love and grace. Thank you for your courage to face the hard questions and your desire to move us all in a deeper and stronger (real) relationship with Christ that leads to real love and understanding of who we all are in Him. We need this to enable us to give all people, whether they are inner city poor, prostitutes, or a family in remote Guatemala, the worth and value that God gives them. Bless you.
dad (Comment this)

Written by: Don (dad) at 2007/01/29 - 11:59:36
36 - Jamie
Congratulations on your courage. Your revelations make not one bit of difference to me in who you are. You are Jamie, made in God's image and I love you the same today as yesterday.
Marty (Comment this)

Written by: marty at 2007/01/29 - 12:04:50
37 - As I have said often recently you have blogged yourself into find a vulnerable and authentic "voice". Bless you. I am not sure where one goes from here in this important topic. Perhaps living in the tension of the "middle ground" is all you can do, and then continue to do so with grace and humility.

Paul (Comment this)

Written by: Paul Martinson at 2007/01/29 - 12:10:18
38 - Hey Brad,

I would have loved to see that solo applause, but probably a good call (especially in a small town). Anyway, thanks for the kind words. I am glad you found the blog and hope you'll come back more often.

As for dialogue, I am happy to chat here in the comment section or you can even drop me an email. And, though Virginia is a ways, if you are ever in town, drop me a line.

How would Christ respond? Well, first, I think Jesus would respond to each individual in their specific circumstance. There is not formula for dealing with it. Over all, I believe it was Jesus' primary mission to love and forgive, not judge and exclude. In the end, as we are the Body of Christ, it is to us to walk out that answer in our lives together.

Thanks for stopping by!

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:21:07
39 - Dear Jamieboy. Dear Kim. All of the above.

I am reminded of the early church, awash in a sea of sex-any-way-you-want-it, much like it is advertised and sold on 50% of the Internet, only far more out in the open, if that can be imagined... Nowhere in the literature from the first couple of centuries is find anything like the diatribes that come from the mouths and pens of many of today's "Christian leaders". The concerns were the supremacy of Jesus, unity, keeping away from envy and division, and listening to the overseers of the churches. Matt Stone has recently brought the epistle to Diognetus to our attention, particularly section 5. Read it here: http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-08.htm
Nothing special, those Christians.

Well, there were some things that made them different. But those things were not what we are enculturated in our churches to believe.

Enough of my ramblings for now.
More hugs to you.
Dana

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Written by: Dana Ames at 2007/01/29 - 12:21:31
40 - Thanks Rick. That means a lot.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:21:54
41 - Hey Dad,

I really appreciate that. I love you and Mom a great deal, and hope you never feel guilty or blamed for this issue.

Love,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:24:16
42 - Hey Marty,

With you, I have never doubted that your love is unconditional. Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:34:27
43 - Hey Paul,

Indeed, that middle place seems the right place, though the most difficult place. Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:36:18
44 - Dana,

Great thoughts and link. Thanks so much.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:37:48
45 - Jamie- like I wrote in the email to you earlier, I think the only way the church will ever figure how to deal with homosexuality is by facing the truth, spoken in love from genuine believers like you. I, too, have so much respect for you and the way you always get to the heart of difficult issues. Thank you for your wisdom and transparency. I am also thankful and moved by the loving and gracious responses you've received here. That speaks volumes! (Comment this)

Written by: cindy at 2007/01/29 - 12:44:38
46 - Brother, thank you so much for your courage, authenticity, sensitivity, compassionate pastoral heart, and commitment to God's truth. All of these are such a gift to the church and the world, my friend.

I hesitate to go on, because I want to make sure that you and all your readers understand my heart. I am someone within the emerging conversation who has come to the opposite conclusion regarding God's will on this issue. I've studied and prayed and considered and conversed over this, and particularly over the handful of Biblical mentions of homosexuality, and I do not believe that there is sufficient evidence to conclude that practicing homosexuality is inconsistent with following Jesus.

This has not been the personally inescapable issue for me that it has been for you, but as an Anglican, reflection on this issue has been inescapable for me too for the last severl years. Everything you disclaim about the manner in which you hold your position applies to the manner in which I hold mine, as well. I do not hold it without uncertainty, but neither do I state it as something I believe to be merely "true for me" in a relativistic way.

The reason I hesitated to say that is only this: please understand that the reason I *did* state my position is *not* to disagree with you, Jamie or undermine your courageous stand and commitment to the truth of the gospel. I'm *not* trying to trivialize your journey or say "I think you would have been just fine with God if you hadn't bothered to struggle with this at all." I swear, brother, none of that is my intent.

I mention my position for one reason alone: to express, speaking as a Christian on the "other side" of this theological question, my unequivocal gratitude for your voice and the voice of all who speak with clarity regarding their convictions on this issue. I have an opinion on this issue. I don't hold this position in a relative, "just true for me" manner. However, I don't hold it with certainty, either. Certainly, I couldn't claim to be untroubled by the (scant, in my opinion) Biblical witness on this issue, and thousands of years of tradition adding weight to the other side of this issue. I could be wrong.

I pray to remain open to the continued conversion of the Spirit and to correction from my sisters and brothers in the Church. And if you and others in the Body who disagree with me were to be equivocal or unclear regarding your convictions, you would not be serving me, those in the church who agree with me, or our gay sisters and brothers inside and outside the church. So thank you and thank God for your clarity, Jamie, and for the compassionate love for all of God's children that permeates your writing and which has characterized all of the comments on this post so far!

Peace,
Mike (Comment this)

Written by: Mike Croghan at 2007/01/29 - 12:48:57
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47 - Cindy,

Thanks for the comment & the email. One of the reasons that I chose to post this is because I sensed that the response would be positive. I am blessed by all of you.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 12:54:46
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48 - Mike,

Thanks for stepping out, as I know being the first person in a thread taking the other side of an issue is tough. It's a safe place to do it, even if we wrestle over the issue.

I agree that Scripture does not offer an absolutely, unquestionable conclusion on this issue. However, there is more in Scripture that states a clear position on homosexuality than there is about slavery, yet I am far more confident on the issue of slavery. By this I am suggesting that we have to look at the bigger picture, which includes implicit messages about a topic, tradition and church history, etc. For me, while I share you experience with Scripture explicitly on homosexuality, my overall view can't be reconciled with your position.

Again, thanks for your courage and honesty.

Peace,
Jamie (Comment this)

Written by: Jamie Arpin-Ricci at 2007/01/29 - 13:01:29
49 - Jamie,
Thank you for continuing to post engaging, thoughtful, and honest revelations of your journey with Jesus. You have gone forward into the fray! One of the phrases that we have worked around our congregation is the idea that we are to "embody the passion of Jesus." This idea that we suffer even in the coming Kingdom of Jesus, even in the rule and reign of Christ, is particularly important if we are to uphold a vision of holiness that includes boundaries to our appetites--whether those appetites are for sex, food, money, and entertainment. To embody the the passion of Jesus is truly to love. To be complelled even constrained or governed by the love of Christ means that persons who follow Jesus may know among the many sources of pain--the pain of a thorn in the flesh; I am thankful that Jesus has declared that His grace is sufficient for these thorsn. You are demonstrating such grace, and I pray that you and all those close to you abound in His grace.
Blessings,
Craig (Comment this)

Written by: craig at 2007/01/29 - 14:32:20
50 - Once again, a fellow Christ-follower has had to deal with the struggle with his sexuality in a world where people are so neatly boxed and categorized.

Homosexual.
Republican.
Liberal.
Fundamentalist.

All of these words have their own unique currency in the evangelical world I experience on a daily basis, and all of these words are used to hurt and divide. What there is about anyone's struggles with anything that make one more or less severe than another is beyond me. I would like to quote Rich Mullins, a person who fought the categories we make and did it so eloquently:

"It's just that for so many people that I know, Christianity's this matter of ... it has everything
to do with morals. Christianity is a religion about morals. And they will even talk about Jesus. And they will say kids need to know about Jesus so they won't smoke, drink, or dance, or go with girls that do,
and all that kind of thing. And I kinda go,
'That's not why people need to know about Jesus.
The only reason—the only possible excuse
for talking about Jesus is because we need a Savior."

Amen. The ONLY thing that separates me from God (before Christ) is SIN, not a particular manifestation of it. (Comment this)

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